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ClimateGate: “‘climate comrades’ keeping the ‘gravy train’ going.”








By John Ingham

December 2nd, 2009


Daily Express |Climate change ‘fraud’

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THE scientific consensus

that mankind has caused

climate change was rocked

yesterday as a leading

academic called it a

“load of hot air

underpinned by fraud”

Professor Ian Plimer condemned

the climate change lobby

as “climate comrades” keeping

the “gravy train” going.

In a controversial talk just days

before the start of a

climate summit attended by world

leaders in Copenhagen,

Prof Plimer said Governments

were treating the public like

“fools” and using climate change

to increase taxes.

He said carbon dioxide has

had no impact on temperature

and that recent warming

was part of the natural

cycle of climate stretching

over billions of years.

Prof Plimer –

author of Heaven and Earth:

Global Warming,

The Missing Science

told a London audience:

“Climates always change.

They always have and

they always will.

They are driven by a

number of factors that are

random and cyclical.”

His comments came days after

a scandal in climate-change

research emerged through the

leak of emails from the

world-leading research unit at

the University of East Anglia.

They appeared to show that

scientists had been massaging data

to prove that global warming

was taking place.

The Climate Research Unit

also admitted getting rid of

much of its raw climate data,

which means other scientists

cannot check the subsequent


Last night the head of the CRU,

Professor Phil Jones, said he

would stand down while an

independent review took place.

Professor Plimer said climate

change was caused by natural

events such as volcanic eruptions,

the shifting of the Earth’s

orbit and cosmic radiation.



He said:

“Carbon dioxide levels

have been up to 1,000 times

higher in the past.

CO2 cannot be driving

global warming now.

“In the past we have had

rapid and significant

climate change with

temperature changes greater

than anything we are

measuring today.

They are driven by

processes that have been

going on since the beginning

of time.”

He cited periods of warming

during the Roman Empire

and in the Middle Ages –

when Vikings grew crops

on Greenland –

and cooler phases such as

the Dark Ages and the

Little Ice Age from

1300 to 1850.

And he predicted that the next

phase would cool the planet.

Climate change is widely blamed

on the burning of fossil fuels

which release greenhouse gases

such as CO2 into the atmosphere,

where they trap the sun’s heat.

The talks at Copenhagen

are expected to find ways

to reduce greenhouse gas

emissions globally.

But Professor Plimer,

of Adelaide and Melbourne


said that to stop climate change

Governments should find ways

to prevent changes to the Earth’s

orbit and ocean currents and

avoid explosions of supernovae

in space.

Of the saga of the leaked emails,

he said:

“If you have to argue

your science by using fraud,

your science is not valid.”

The CRU’s Professor Jones has

admitted some of the emails may

have had “poorly chosen words”

and were sent in the

“heat of the moment”.

But he has categorically denied

manipulating data and said

he stood by the science.

And yesterday he dismissed

suggestions of a conspiracy to

alter evidence to support a

theory of man-made

global warming as

“complete rubbish”.

But mining geology professor

Plimer said there was a huge

momentum behind the

climate-change lobby. 

He suggested many scientists

had a vested interest in

promoting climate change

because it helped secure

more funding for research.

He said:

“The climate comrades

are trying to keep

the gravy train going.

Governments are also

keen on putting their

hands as deep as possible

into our pockets.”

“The average person has

been talked down to.”

“He has been

treated like a fool”.

“Yet the average person

has common sense.”

But Vicky Pope,

head of Met Office Climate

Change Advice, said:

“We are seeing changes in

climate on a timescale we have

not seen before.

“There clearly are

natural variations.

But the only way we can

explain these trends is

when we include both

man-made and natural

changes to the climate.”

“We have also seen declines

in summer sea ice over

the past 30 years,

glaciers retreating for

150 years,

changing rainfall patterns

and increases in subsurface

and surface ocean temperatures.”

And as the war of words between

the rival camps intensified,

leading economist Lord Stern

dismissed the sceptics as


Lord Stern,

who produced a detailed report

on the issue for the Government,

said evidence of climate

change was “overwhelming”.

He accepted that all views

should be heard but said

the degree of scepticism among

“real scientists” was very small.





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